dragonheart: (Abby looking down)
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 That stupid book was the talk of the spa this past weekend.

You would think that grown women had never read (or had the opportunity to read) erotica before.

note:  I use the term "erotica" very loosely when associated with this book.

Granted, I haven't read the book, but I have read excerpts and the writing is TERRIBLE - actually it's worse than terrible and the fact that it started out as a Twilight fanfiction that was tweaked and later published and now has sold millions of copies just causes me to see GREEN.

Green as in jealousy and anger.  Jealousy because my writing is better than what I saw in that book (that's really  not bragging) and my stuff will never see print - and anger that there is such dang good fan fiction out there that deserves the attention that this book is garnering which will never see print and millions of readers. 

On the other hand - I have to hand it to the writer because she saw the opportunity and took it.  Nothing against her - my rant is against the "system".

Date: 2012-07-16 10:27 pm (UTC)
whiteink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whiteink
I read the first 10 painful pages because I got a free dl of it for my nook (from a less that legit place). Horrible writing.

That said since it was initially written as a Twilight fanfiction story and later adapted to its own story I'd like to get a copy of the fanfic to check out.

But I agree. It annoys me that there is such good writing out there that'll never see print or the $ that this piece of trash is.

Jealous? Yes. But that makes the point no less valid. This is what we as a society is putting on the best seller list? There's something very wrong with that.

50 Shades is the literary equivilent of Teen Mom.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:43 am (UTC)
merzibelle: Black & White image of a leafless tree against a gray sky personalized with 'Merzibelle' (Default)
From: [personal profile] merzibelle
Fifty Shades has the advantage of damned good advertising behind it taking advantage of the Twilight connection. From the moment it went on sale, they did nothing but talk about how 50 Shades was "Twilight for Adults". I'm truly surprised both publisher and author haven't been sued by Ms. Meyer over that connection.

The original fan fiction was removed from the internet when the contract was signed by the author. As far as I know, no one has a copy of it unless it was downloaded before that contract was issued.

Actually, there is a bunch of fan fiction authors who have painstakingly "filed the serial numbers" off of their works, submitted them and been published. Said authors generally go out of their way to separate their fandom lives from their professional writing careers. Again, for fear of being sued if the word got out about the origin of their work.

Considering that people put a story about a controlling mentally/emotionally abusive vampire on the best seller lists and praise it as the "best in young adult literature", I can't say I'm surprised at 50 Shades getting on a list.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:20 am (UTC)
alidiabin: (pan am)
From: [personal profile] alidiabin
I suspect they haven't. I had to explain what fifty shades of grey was to my mother and she went "It's smut, if I see it in the house I will throw it out." (It's a good job I have my own laptop).

It saddens me, how there are some really awesome writers out there both original fic and fanfic, who will never get to see print or bestsellers lists (since ebooks are taking over).

It also scares me how I could probably write better smut than this woman and how it is on the bestsellers list.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:45 am (UTC)
merzibelle: Black & White image of a leafless tree against a gray sky personalized with 'Merzibelle' (Default)
From: [personal profile] merzibelle
The best seller lists are slowly changing to include ebook authors as the makers of the lists realize that ebooks and epublishing is the way of the future. I know several ebook authors who are/have been on best seller lists including the NY Times one.

Date: 2012-07-17 06:58 am (UTC)
alidiabin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alidiabin

I really don't pay too much attention to the lists.

I simply mentioned bestsellers lists because well an e-book isn't in print, and books on the internet are not always recognized as such.

Date: 2012-07-17 01:52 am (UTC)
merzibelle: Black & White image of a leafless tree against a gray sky personalized with 'Merzibelle' (Default)
From: [personal profile] merzibelle
It's the talk everywhere. I'm not surprised. Oh, for the record, the romance writing community and the romance reader blogs are split right down the middle on how good a book it is.

A lot of grown women, especially those who grew up before the "internet generation", likely didn't read erotica before that book. 50 Shades has the advantages of aggressive marketing (some of which make no bones about it being "Twilight for Adults") and a "mainstream" cover. There's nothing on the cover to suggest that the book is nearly all sex, so more women are likely to buy it and read it in public then they would things like the erotic romance books with their so called "mantitty" (pictures of half or mostly naked men) covers.

And there are a lot of fan fiction writers who are getting into professional writing by "filing the serial numbers off" the fan fiction they've written. However, these writers are taking pains to separate their fandom and professional writing lives, sometimes never mentioning their fandom connection when talking professionally or mentioning that they sold a book to their fandom followers. It's a catch twenty-two... you can sell well if you say something like "this book was inspired by NCIS", for example. Yet if you say that's where you got your characters from, well, the publishers generally won't publish you. The author of 50 Shades slipped through a crack in the NYC publishing world which will likely never be open again... because an ebook publisher would have recognized the fact it was fan fiction and not taken the book.

Sorry, didn't mean to rant/ramble there... just explaining.

Date: 2012-07-17 03:09 pm (UTC)
klingonlady: (Default)
From: [personal profile] klingonlady
From what I have heard I am NOT impressed to read the book and I think I crushed my sisters dreams of it yesterday when I told her not to expect a literary masterpiece even though it is a best seller..

If you REALLY REALLY REALLLLLLYYYYY wanna laugh and read something that nearly has me convinced to read it just for the humpr HUMOR of it now..... http://www.sponsoredlady.com/product-review-masturbation-to-fifty-shades/

The review is written better than I expect the book is.
Edited Date: 2012-07-17 03:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-17 08:27 pm (UTC)
klingonlady: (Default)
From: [personal profile] klingonlady
Here is what a FB friend said today about it..

To borrow from EL James' vocabulary: Holy crap, 50 Shades is awful! My jaw is dropping open at the thought of women squirming for this "hot" book. My inner goddess wants to find James and either kick her or enroll her in a writing class. My palms are twitching with that desire.

Date: 2012-07-18 05:39 pm (UTC)
meekosan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] meekosan
LMAO Too funny.

Date: 2012-07-17 04:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] proseac
Thanks for saving me the bother of looking into it. I suspected as much.

The thing is, a true writer will write, whether or not they ever get published in their lifetime. How much do you want to bet that this woman never publishes another thing, ever? She's not a writer. She's an opportunist.

We are writers. THAT's the difference, right there. :)

Date: 2012-07-18 05:41 pm (UTC)
meekosan: (H50: Steve Scope)
From: [personal profile] meekosan
The other girls in the pharmacy talk about the book all the time and I just want to bang my head against the counter whenever it is brought up. It just makes me more anxious to want to write something and try to publish (*continues dreaming*) just for the sake of trying.

And what else? This stupid book is being made into a movie. The only way I'd go see it is if they cast Chris Pine as the leading male. YUM!

Date: 2012-07-18 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karaokegal.livejournal.com
Tell me about it. I want to deface copies when I see them at bookstores and whenever someone asks me about it, as a phenomena, I just want to shake them and slap them silly.


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