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dragonheartHad a nice little AU bunny spark from the latest T/Z spoiler for next week's episode.
Just might have to work on that tonight. I am intrigued.
Spoiler can be found here: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/bizarro_ncis_QxIdLw4rXMYFled2N9lF5M#ixzz1l0enXoqK
Also, we should be able to see the teaser promo tonight!
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Date: 2012-01-31 02:46 pm (UTC)Though ... my bunnies did just think of something. But only vaguely related.
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Date: 2012-01-31 04:57 pm (UTC)"Real World" Gibbs sees how unhappy Tony is in his marriage to Wendy and how Ziva has become a ruthless Eli pawn without Gibbs being in their lives - but it is inevitable that fate would bring them together anyway and low and behold the "spark" is there.
"Real World" Gibbs just may realize the error of Rule#12 and begin to relax it clearing the way for canon T/Z.
Yeap, my Tiva glasses are shined up and ready to go.
spoiler?
Date: 2012-01-31 03:59 pm (UTC)Re: spoiler?
Date: 2012-01-31 04:42 pm (UTC)Here is my take on what is going to happen:
Tony is married (to Wendy?) albeit unhappily.
He meets this crazy, beautiful wild Mossad agent and he is attracted to her. I don't think they end up together but it shows him again that he made a mistake in marrying Wendy (?).
This is AU and shows "real world" Gibbs how unhappy Tony would be in his marriage and Ziva became the assassin pawn of her father if he (Gibbs)never became an agent. Seeing the chemisty between the two as inevitable, he will revoke rule #12 and all will live happily everafter in the "real world"
I have shined up my Tiva glasses!
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Date: 2012-01-31 07:45 pm (UTC)Re: spoiler?
Date: 2012-01-31 07:50 pm (UTC)Just posted a fic based on my speculation.
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Date: 2012-01-31 04:17 pm (UTC)Can't wait to see what your bunnies come up with!
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Date: 2012-01-31 04:50 pm (UTC)Tony is better off without the unhappy marriage that he would have had if Gibbs hadn't come along and Ziva is better off without being the sharp end of Eli's spear all this time and working at NCIS saved her from that.
"Real world" Gibbs sees that the attraction between T/Z is inevitable and begins to relax his stance on rule #12 and all will live happily everafter in the "real world". Yes, my Tiva colored glasses are polished up and ready to go.
I am of the belief that we will not like our AU team or their circumstances very much as this episode is meant to show us that they are better people and agents as a result of being with Gibbs.
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Date: 2012-01-31 07:00 pm (UTC)I haven't seen any of the previews for this episode, so the only spoilers I've seen have been those you've posted. I wasn't clear on the time frame for Gibbs' flashbacks, and I didn't realize it went all the way back to before he joined NIS. That's interesting. Hope we learn more about how he originally met Ducky, too, although if what they're showing us is an alternate reality, it'll never be 'canon', will it?
I don't know, I just don't see Gibbs being that ready to relax rule #12 - at least not when they're both on the same team. MAYBE if they were on different teams. He's stubborn as a mule, and I wonder if even this will be enough to sway him? I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
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Date: 2012-01-31 07:43 pm (UTC)I don't think he will relax it right away, but I think the seed will be planted.
But you know I do have Tiva colored glasses, but all indications from GG is that he is eventually going there - so the door has to open one way or the other.
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Date: 2012-01-31 07:55 pm (UTC)Now, remember, this is GG we're talking about...the master of misdirection and insertion of red herrings. Usually he ends up doing exactly the opposite of what he says he's going to do.
That said, I think the pressure being brought to bear by the fan base is getting too great for him to continually ignore it, so you're probably right that it will eventually happen. But before they do that, I predict there will be a big dust-up and Tony & Ziva will go through a phase where they almost can't stand each other.
Don't know why I think that, but dramatically it makes sense. For whatever reason, I REALLY enjoyed seeing angry!Tony in Housekeeping. We don't see that side of him very often, and it was kind of a turn-on, I'll admit. *blushes* I'd LOVE to see that anger turned on Ziva, who would be much more fiery in response (kind of like what we saw between them during the Rivkin arc). With Gibbs playing referee like he did in Housekeeping. Yeah.
I know this isn't going to be a popular idea, but I see it leading to them getting all their frustrations worked out and in the end, coming together. What do you think?
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Date: 2012-01-31 08:20 pm (UTC)You could be right on the dust up between T/Z - I really don't think that TPTB are going to hand deliver them on a silver platter for us - it will be a angst driven ride for sure.
I love angry Tony too! (he was very hot in that scene when he was giving EJ what for).
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Date: 2012-01-31 09:15 pm (UTC)Just like, how long can Tony go on as SFA without being promoted to having his own team? And how long can Jimmy go on being a 'trainee'? It's really starting to stretch the boundaries of believability for me.
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Date: 2012-01-31 10:23 pm (UTC)#1 - I believe NCIS will want to go out on a high note and let's face it, our cast is not getting any younger and it gets harder and harder to believe that they wouldn't want to stretch their acting wings - it is bad for an actor to get typecast into one character or role and for some of them it will be hard (even now) to see them in another role.
#2 the show IS Team Gibbs and it gets harder with each passing season that Tony would continue to be happy in Gibb's shadow when he is more than capable of leading his own team. Even Ziva and McGee would have moved on profesionally by now.
#3 Ducky is almost (if not already passed) retirement age (as is Gibbs). As far as we know poor Jimmy hasn't even graduated from medical school yet - either he is a VERY slow learner or he is attending the extension program. Realistically, he should be a full ME by now and Ducky should have another assistant. If Ducky retire, there is no way Jimmy as a recent graduate can just step into the "head NCIS ME" role, he needs to be an acting ME on his own before he can be ready for that.
I could go on, but you get my drift. Really, anything past Season 11 would be pushing us into the realm of unbelievability and then people will stop watching. It would be a shame to end the #1 show on TV with reduced ratings and fan displeasure. As much as I personally want it to last forever, it just can't be done and.
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Date: 2012-01-31 10:35 pm (UTC)I'm even wondering if it wouldn't be wise to finish the current show THIS season, give Tony his own team, and spin off into a new show where Duck and Gibbs could show up now and then but not be regular cast members. Tony could either take over Team Gibbs (if Gibbs retires) or get a new team, perhaps in the DC Field Office so that it wouldn't be weird to have Gibbs and Ducky around from time to time.
That said, I've lost track of whose contract is up when, but if they end the show as it stands now, I think everyone is released from their contract anyway so it wouldn't matter. So, they may or may not keep Ziva and McGee around for the next incarnation.
Of course, none of the above will ever happen - it's just my little plot bunnies going mad...
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Date: 2012-02-02 03:42 pm (UTC)You underestimate, I think, the mindset of studio execs. They will drive something into the ground without hesitation. All three of your points are very valid but, in Hollywoodland, where Ziva is only 30 and Abby evidently started working at NCIS when she was 12 since NCIS:LA put her as late 20s, those same points are considered irrelevant.
Realistically, Tony should have moved on following season 4 ... although a legitimate argument can be made that, by refusing a promotion to Rota, he essentially ended his career, but then, realistically, Ziva wouldn't have been allowed back on the team after season 6, Gibbs should have been thoroughly investigated (and probably fired) after season 7, Jimmy should have become Dr. Jimmy back in season 3 or 4 (is he only going to school part-time? I'd be tempted to reveal that he's been a MD for years now and only Ducky knows it, but they work so well together that he hasn't wanted to leave) and McGee should have actual speaking parts.
All that said, I've interacted with a co-worker who watches NCIS and discovered that he's one of THOSE people - he watches the ep and then promptly forgets everything that happened - so I doubt the studio execs really care that they've shattered the realm of believability. People like you are the exception - you actually pay attention to what's happening instead of Brain Off so they aren't angling for you.
Sadly.
And wow, that's the most I've read and/or written about NCIS in weeks!