What's With the Haters?
Mar. 8th, 2011 11:03 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dragonheartI am fairly new to Live Journal and to fandom in general, so since I have discovered this new obsession, I have been trolling thru LJ looking for good fiction, interesting journaling and checking out the various communities. I recently came upon a community called "No Tiva" which is dedicated to the people who are against Tiva and let me tell you I got an education on hate. I was actually shocked at the level of animosity in there. From the sampling of postings that I read, I can classify the anti-tiva movement into 3 groups.
Group #1 - not really anti-Tiva, more of an anti-relationship movement, and since Tiva is the canon ship of the show, they have hopped on that bandwagon. From what I can tell, they want to keep the show "pure" - no romance - just team dynamic and case fiction - they don't want to watch soap opera, but crime drama. Ok, I can kind of see their point - I for one am a shipper, but I don't have any real problems with this group as a whole.
Group #2 - anti-Tiva. They don't have a problem with relationships on the show, they just don't want T/Z together. This group seems to be very pro EJ at this point - anybody to break up the Tiva dynamic. Either they have been against T/Z from the beginning or they are converts due to the dilly dallying of the writers playing both sides of the coin for years now. They are burnt out on the whole thing and ready to move on. I can see their point as well, and as much as I disagree with them, I don't have any big problems with this group either, which brings me to
Group#3 - These are the real haters of the movement. They despise T/Z together and just about all of them hate Ziva in particular for various reasons. Actually check that, I do believe that all of them hate Ziva to some degree. I don't think I read one posting from anyone who said they were anti-Tiva because they hated Tony (they are probley out there, I just didn't see them in my sampling). These people had some really nasty things to say about the character of Ziva. And hey, I know all about disliking a character - I would be the first to raise my hand and say I don't like the character of EJ, and not just because she is causing friction in my ship, but for a laundry listing of other reasons (which is for another post), so ok, I can sorta understand this group even though I personally love Ziva and she is my girl crush - but included in this group is a small (I hope) fraction that takes their hate of Ziva and extends it over to Cote de Pablo. I cannot believe the things that people were posting about CdP, they are practically holding her personally responsible for the mistakes of the Ziva character and any perceived problems on the show. They think if CdP was fired or her contract would not be renewed, then the show would go back to being perfect. Do they not understand that CdP is an actress? She is not Ziva personified - she is only portraying the character as she is written by the writers and directed by the directors ( that's where their frustrations and anger should be directed). This is one group that I can't even pretend to begin to understand.
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Date: 2011-03-09 06:46 pm (UTC)So yes, the militant group consists mostly of the slashers who fell in love with the "guy show" back then and never got the memo that Ziva's arrival pretty much eradicated that subtext. (Or, well - maybe they got it and that's why they're pissed.)
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Date: 2011-03-09 07:05 pm (UTC)Totally OT: I love that icon. Middleman was such an awesome show ... which reminds me, I need to see if I can get it on DVD ...
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Date: 2011-03-09 07:08 pm (UTC)Too bad that show only had such a few episodes. :(
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Date: 2011-03-09 07:10 pm (UTC)Best part? My roommates didn't see it and don't know the pure Awesome that is now coming. :D